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expired Posted by iconian | Staff • Dec 13, 2024
Dec 13, 2024 8:37 PM
Integra DRX 3.4 100W 9.2-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver
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I finally got the 3.4 set up. For context I'm coming from an Onkyo TR-NX 818. It had 130 watts per channel vs this at 100. My first day setting it up and playing around with it I was underwhelmed. I purchased the Klipsch RP 1200SW at the same time to pair with my KSW 15. I've had my KSW 15 for over 24 years and it has served me very well. Switching to a two subwoofer system has been amazing. At first that was the only thing that had impressed me. I was really second guessing the purchase of the Integra.
This morning I got up early, moved some furniture around, and played with the sub woofer placement. Then I ran Dirac for the first time. I did the full placement testing with the supplied mic. WOW … everything came alive. I can't wait to try Dirac with my laptop, then I'm going to buy the minidsp UMIK-1 mic.
I wasn't expecting to be wowed this much, especially coming from an Audyssey XT32 set up on my old TX-NR 818. I know it will progressively get better redoing it with the laptop, than the new minidsp mic. The bass has really tightened up. Original I didn't have both subs parallel from each other, so that helped also, at least with some standing waves. I don't feel the need to invest in an Emotiva Basx A3, or an Outlaw amp anymore. I probably will once I upgrade to 5.2.4, but for now I'm set and satisfied.
There is no reciever at this price with 9 channels, pre outs, HDMI 2.1 on all ports, and Dirac built in. Also higher grade components compared to similar Onkyo and Pioneer models.
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No different than like bench test/measurements!
Going by that, this isn't supposed to sound/perform well either!
No different than like bench test/measurements!
Going by that, this isn't supposed to sound/perform well either!
An accurate bench test will absolutely speak to what the unit can do in regards to powering speakers
You are mixing metrics, in my opinion
Sound is subjective...a bench test is not testing sound
In my ownership experience(A-Z), the Asian models really sound the same...without room correction engaged
In that regard..I personally, with the Asian models, am buying specs that I need/want and my preferred room correction
Not sure what you mean by " this isnt supposed to perform well either"
Why would that be?
if you prefer Dirac this should be fine, if the unit has enough channels and enough amp/power supply for your speakers at the level you listen to
if either( or both) dont apply then this unit doesnt fit your needs
But I see you said " bench marks" not " bench tests" so you may mean something very different
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A "bench mark" like a bench test or weight does not define how good or bad something will sound(perform).
Can people believe they do, yes people do it all the time.
That's a personal opinion/belief, not a universal one, there is no debating that.
I personally have never heard anything that tested really well that sounded bad..ever
Maybe you have a specific model example here where that is the case?
I honestly cant think of anything that has ever applied to
I have however seen items with poor performance specs. that sound horrible....the particular component, I have in mind, wasnt able to drive the speaker system and clipped
Me and friend even did a test years ago with a Denon 4308 versus an Onkyo 875
The Onkyo weight significantly more and out performed the Denon, which went into clipping.
On a side note..Denon bought that unit back from me
As I stated before...in my personal ownership...I think the Asian brands pretty much sound the same in an environment where their performance metrics are not overtaxed
So, I buy Asian brands on room correction and performance specs
In regards to the 20lbs difference being an issue...There is no doubt in my mind that the extra weight meant a beefier amp/power supply
One would assume they didnt need that in the new unit if they were satisfied and it drove their sound just fine
In an A/B amp design..A very good indicator of a better amp/power supply is the higher weight of the unit
if I recall...that used to be part of the THX ultra standard
I've put together a budget-friendly home theater using a Jamo S809 tower, an S89 center, a Dayton bookshelf for the front height, and Dayton Audio satellite. There are two subs - one Dayton Audio 10" and one Monoprice 10". Not the typical audiophile's setup
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I personally have never heard anything that tested really well that sounded bad..ever
Maybe you have a specific model example here where that is the case?
I honestly cant think of anything that has ever applied to
I have however seen items with poor performance specs. that sound horrible....the particular component, I have in mind, wasnt able to drive the speaker system and clipped
Me and friend even did a test years ago with a Denon 4308 versus an Onkyo 875
The Onkyo weight significantly more and out performed the Denon, which went into clipping.
On a side note..Denon bought that unit back from me
As I stated before...in my personal ownership...I think the Asian brands pretty much sound the same in an environment where their performance metrics are not overtaxed
So, I buy Asian brands on room correction and performance specs
In regards to the 20lbs difference being an issue...There is no doubt in my mind that the extra weight meant a beefier amp/power supply
One would assume they didnt need that in the new unit if they were satisfied and it drove their sound just fine
In an A/B amp design..A very good indicator of a better amp/power supply is the higher weight of the unit
Even then your opinion results doesn't mean it would apply to anyone else imo.
Luckily for Shawners419 had he went strictly on some "good indicator" on paper he never would had tried this and been "really shocked at how good it sounds, definitely a step up"!
For your tested well/sounded bad question.
Many examples, I'll give you a recent one.
I won't use bad, imo nothing universally sounds bad, we just don't prefer the sound.
Friend has a MA 500 Gold setup & using an Onkyo RZ70, the RZ70 did not fair well, it struggled very quickly.
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I've put together a budget-friendly home theater using a Jamo S809 tower, an S89 center, a Dayton bookshelf for the front height, and Dayton Audio satellite. There are two subs - one Dayton Audio 10" and one Monoprice 10". Not the typical audiophile's setup
If buying new there are a lot of speakers to choose from in that price range. IMHO it would be worth while to audition the Paradigm Monitor SE 3000F ($262 on sale - each) and the 6000F ($375/each) with the Paradigm Monitor SE 2000C ($187 on sale). They'll provide a general baseline as to what to expect at that price level. You can even audition them with higher end AVRs and separates so you can hear how much the sound improves. Likewise, you can audition the next tier high (Premier 700F) since you should be able to find used speakers similar in price at the next tier higher.