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This is a office only computer.It cannot be upgraded to convert to better ram or storage size. Everything is soldered in. Its how HP controls their systems now. No work around allowed. You have to buy a gamer's computer for much more money now to get any power/switches from the motherboard, and even then, it might be soldered in..This is your average run of the mill lousy HP laptop designed to lock you in with fixed hardware.
This has been BB's deal of the day multiple times recently, including last week. It's a great price for what it is but as others have noted, RAM is soldered in and can't be upgraded. Datasheet: https://files.bbystatic.com/RALLa.../Datasheet
Mendocino is quad-core Zen 2 with 2 CUs RDNA2 graphics. So it was a new creation at the time since Zen 2 Renoir APUs used Vega graphics. But unlike the Steam Deck's 8 CUs, the 2 CUs in Mendocino don't go very far. It does get some newer features, like AV1 decode, but that's about it.
It's not like it's horrible if you don't care about iGPU performance. I wouldn't pay $320 for it and 8 GB RAM though.
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This is a office only computer.It cannot be upgraded to convert to better ram or storage size. Everything is soldered in. Its how HP controls their systems now. No work around allowed. You have to buy a gamer's computer for much more money now to get any power/switches from the motherboard, and even then, it might be soldered in..This is your average run of the mill lousy HP laptop designed to lock you in with fixed hardware.
It's almost like they are learning from their Printer divison.
*7520 https://www.techpowerup.com/cpu-s...520u.c3046https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD...934.0.html Mendocino is quad-core Zen 2 with 2 CUs RDNA2 graphics. So it was a new creation at the time since Zen 2 Renoir APUs used Vega graphics. But unlike the Steam Deck's 8 CUs, the 2 CUs in Mendocino don't go very far. It does get some newer features, like AV1 decode, but that's about it. It's not like it's horrible if you don't care about iGPU performance. I wouldn't pay $320 for it and 8 GB RAM though.
Yeah if it were upgradeable I'd be in there but 8GB and no expansion slots is a rough ride.
This is a office only computer.It cannot be upgraded to convert to better ram or storage size. Everything is soldered in. Its how HP controls their systems now. No work around allowed. You have to buy a gamer's computer for much more money now to get any power/switches from the motherboard, and even then, it might be soldered in..This is your average run of the mill lousy HP laptop designed to lock you in with fixed hardware.
That's boogeymanning. It's not how HP controls their systems. Every manufacturer uses soldered items, particularly at the low end. Sometimes it's a mild performance bump - LPDDR is seriously faster than DDR, it's much cheaper to manufacture, and it lends the models to be as-is, which for most buyers is all that will ever happen.
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That's boogeymanning. It's not how HP controls their systems. Every manufacturer uses soldered items, particularly at the low end. Sometimes it's a mild performance bump - LPDDR is seriously faster than DDR, it's much cheaper to manufacture, and it lends the models to be as-is, which for most buyers is all that will ever happen.
Its the trend in all manufacturing now, so its frowned on by DIYers. Back in the day, you could find an office computer that was upgradable at a price where you could get some hardware upgrades later and beat the system, but not anymore. And HP is just playing for profits in the laptop segment by making proprietary hardware that is fixed permanently, even the hard drive is soldered, I think.
This is a office only computer.It cannot be upgraded to convert to better ram or storage size. Everything is soldered in. Its how HP controls their systems now. No work around allowed. You have to buy a gamer's computer for much more money now to get any power/switches from the motherboard, and even then, it might be soldered in..This is your average run of the mill lousy HP laptop designed to lock you in with fixed hardware.
This is a budget 17" laptop that's adequate for most everyday and school users, which is like 70% of the population. 16GB would be ideal for longevity but that's what swap file is for. I mean, look at people praising the slower Intel N100 and N3xx as everyday PCs.
There are plenty of laptops and desktop PCs with upgradable RAM and storage -- you don't need to buy a gaming PC.
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That's boogeymanning. It's not how HP controls their systems. Every manufacturer uses soldered items, particularly at the low end. Sometimes it's a mild performance bump - LPDDR is seriously faster than DDR, it's much cheaper to manufacture, and it lends the models to be as-is, which for most buyers is all that will ever happen.
AMD Mendocino has narrower 64-bit (2x32) LPDDR5-5500 memory compared to most other mainstream Intel/AMD CPUs (128-bit DDR4-3200/LPDDR4/DDR5/LPDDR5). Obviously many socketed dual-channel DDR4/DDR5 laptops out there ship with a single DIMM and a empty socket, making them slower out of the box.
AMD Mendocino (Zen 2+) is similar in concept to the older AMD Dali (Zen 1+, Ryzen 3 3200U, 3250U and others) and AMD Brazos up to Stoney Ridge, and Intel Atom in many aspects: build dedicated low-end small-die low-pinout(size) CPU dies instead of underclocking and disabling cores/cache/GPU/features from mainstream big-die CPUs (i7 > i5 > i3 > Pentium > Celeron from the same die, and Ryzen 7 > R5 > R3 > Athlon). Dali die has 2 CPU core, 3 GPU core (instead of disabling 4xCPU/11xGPU Raven Ridge Zen 1 Ryzen), Brazos+ all had smaller cache and single channel memory vs. mainstream Athlons. Mendocino die has 4 CPU and 2 GPU cores (vs. 8CPU/8GPU of Zen 2 Lucienne) and narrow 64-bit (2x32) LPDDR5 (128-bit memory requires more CPU pins, increase chip/board size and power consumption) and no dGPU PCI-e lanes.
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Is there a coupon or something? I see BB listed now $431, regardless if I change locations across states. Thanks
It was a daily deal. Regular price is $630 if you click on "More Buying Options" and look for Best Buy as the seller (the rest are just third-party vulture sellers).
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Mendocino is quad-core Zen 2 with 2 CUs RDNA2 graphics. So it was a new creation at the time since Zen 2 Renoir APUs used Vega graphics. But unlike the Steam Deck's 8 CUs, the 2 CUs in Mendocino don't go very far. It does get some newer features, like AV1 decode, but that's about it.
It's not like it's horrible if you don't care about iGPU performance. I wouldn't pay $320 for it and 8 GB RAM though.
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There are plenty of laptops and desktop PCs with upgradable RAM and storage -- you don't need to buy a gaming PC.
AMD Mendocino (Zen 2+) is similar in concept to the older AMD Dali (Zen 1+, Ryzen 3 3200U, 3250U and others) and AMD Brazos up to Stoney Ridge, and Intel Atom in many aspects: build dedicated low-end small-die low-pinout(size) CPU dies instead of underclocking and disabling cores/cache/GPU/features from mainstream big-die CPUs (i7 > i5 > i3 > Pentium > Celeron from the same die, and Ryzen 7 > R5 > R3 > Athlon). Dali die has 2 CPU core, 3 GPU core (instead of disabling 4xCPU/11xGPU Raven Ridge Zen 1 Ryzen), Brazos+ all had smaller cache and single channel memory vs. mainstream Athlons. Mendocino die has 4 CPU and 2 GPU cores (vs. 8CPU/8GPU of Zen 2 Lucienne) and narrow 64-bit (2x32) LPDDR5 (128-bit memory requires more CPU pins, increase chip/board size and power consumption) and no dGPU PCI-e lanes.
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