DDR5 Dual Channel (SODIMM Slots, up to 5200 MT/s, 96GB Max)
Expansions:
2x M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 4.0x4 SSD Slots
1x M.2 2230 Key E Slot for NIC
2x SATA III Ports
1x PCIe 4.0 X16 Slot for GPU (with Metal Fasteners)
Ports:
1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (Alt DisplayPort 1.4)
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
2x USB 2.0 Type-A
1x HDMI 2.1
1x DisplayPort 1.4
1x RJ-45 2.5G Ethernet
1x Line Out
1x Line In
1x Mic In
FAN/Audio/USB Headers:
1x 4-pin CPU Fan header
2x 4-pin System Fan header
1x Front Panel Audio Header
1x System Panel Headers
1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Header
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These boards are interesting. It's basically a Ryzen 9 7950 made into a laptop chip stuck back into a desktop motherboard. You do loose a little bit of performance on the max clock speed and probably clock speeds overall due to power profile changes to fit into the laptop design. It does have less I/O overall and only PCI-E 4 for the GPU and M2 slots and only 2 SODIMM slots but the motherboard with CPU is less than just the equivalent desktop CPU. Seems to be at least $250 savings compared to building a comparable system out of desktop parts.
Seems to be roughly the equivalent of an A620 motherboard. It is interesting the CPU cooler use an intel socket LGA 1700 configuration and not AM4 or AM5 but probably doesn't matter as most coolers have wide compatibility with different sockets.
These boards are interesting. It's basically a Ryzen 9 7950 made into a laptop chip stuck back into a desktop motherboard. You do loose a little bit of performance on the max clock speed and probably clock speeds overall due to power profile changes to fit into the laptop design. It does have less I/O overall and only PCI-E 4 for the GPU and M2 slots and only 2 SODIMM slots but the motherboard with CPU is less than just the equivalent desktop CPU. Seems to be at least $250 savings compared to building a comparable system out of desktop parts.
Seems to be roughly the equivalent of an A620 motherboard. It is interesting the CPU cooler use an intel socket LGA 1700 configuration and not AM4 or AM5 but probably doesn't matter as most coolers have wide compatibility with different sockets.
Agreed. This seems like a LOT of CPU for around 300 bucks. And considering the low TDP for a 16 core processor, IF you can overlock it (I dunno if you can) it may perform well. Those low power chips I think are binned quite high.
The only downsides I can see
-MB has no Argb headers
-sodimm limited speeds and sockets
-limited usb headers on the mb
-stuck with weirdo fl1 socket
I would think this would make a great server lab PC. It might have somewhat limited use as a gaming PC, but it might be serviceable.
Agreed. This seems like a LOT of CPU for around 300 bucks. And considering the low TDP for a 16 core processor, IF you can overlock it (I dunno if you can) it may perform well. Those low power chips I think are binned quite high. The only downsides I can see-MB has no Argb headers-sodimm limited speeds and sockets-limited usb headers on the mb-stuck with weirdo fl1 socketI would think this would make a great server lab PC. It might have somewhat limited use as a gaming PC, but it might be serviceable.
Actually this processor supports 5200 MT/s. So, you are not loosing anything as any higher speed ram will be downclocked to 5200. Another thing, I have read in lots of forum that Minisforum released series of Bios updates, enabling 5600 MT/s memory, PBO and Curve optimiser in their mini ITX Models and high chance that this one got those too as apart from form factor, they all are same
Actually this processor supports 5200 MT/s. So, you are not loosing anything as any higher speed ram will be downclocked to 5200. Another thing, I have read in lots of forum that Minisforum released series of Bios updates, enabling 5600 MT/s memory, PBO and Curve optimiser in their mini ITX Models and high chance that this one got those too as apart from form factor, they all are same
I'm pretty sure sodimms have a top end limit for speed vs full-size dimms, or you're gonna pay a LOT more for comparable speeds.
But I dunno, that chip is a beast, it's like a low power 7950x- it performs like 12% less but at 1/3 the power draw. Like I said above, those chips are binned quite high.
I do wonder about the power limits of the mb too….
I'm pretty sure sodimms have a top end limit for speed vs full-size dimms, or you're gonna pay a LOT more for comparable speeds.But I dunno, that chip is a beast, it's like a low power 7950x- it performs like 12% less but at 1/3 the power draw. Like I said above, those chips are binned quite high.I do wonder about the power limits of the mb too….
100W TDP with 120W Boost. However, if you enable PBO after the BIOS update and use a very high performance cooler with proper thermal paste, it can sustain that 120W Boost.
Regarding the SODIMM speed. I don't understand your point. What I was saying that, you are not going to loose any performance because SODIMM Rams normally offer lesser speed than DIMM desktop Rams because the CPU is limited 5200 MT/s (5600 MT/s with BIOS Update) and they are the standard DDR5 SODIMM speed now a days. Even if you find a 6000 MT/s DDR5 SODIMM module, you won't get any advantage since the CPU does not support it.
I wish it had USB4 ports then i'd be all over this
1st of all, Dragon Range CPUs don't support USB4. 2ndly, what's the advantage of USB4 here? This is not a Mini PC, this is a motherboard. So, you can directly add GPU to it, while building your Desktop.
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I bought this board earlier this year and it's been my daily driver with an Rx 6800. I run void Linux. Memory over clocked to 5400. Definitely a fast system.
Very curious how much power this draws from the wall - I went from a desktop 7950X running in ECO mode to a Intel 265k and the power meter measuring my NAS shows about half the power usage for about $250/yr savings in California prices.
Great price. I bought one of these a little over a month ago to update my old daily driver and gaming PC (prev: Intel Gen 5 with a GTX 1060). I have this board paired with a 7900XT. If you can work around the limited IO, it's at least worth a consideration for those building/upgrading on a tighter budget. I haven't attempted overclocking with either the CPU or Memory (I haven't needed to). Gaming in 4K and Max settings with no issues so far.
1st of all, Dragon Range CPUs don't support USB4. 2ndly, what's the advantage of USB4 here? This is not a Mini PC, this is a motherboard. So, you can directly add GPU to it, while building your Desktop.
Very curious how much power this draws from the wall - I went from a desktop 7950X running in ECO mode to a Intel 265k and the power meter measuring my NAS shows about half the power usage for about $250/yr savings in California prices.
If you find out, please let me know! Always looking for a replacement of my 8th gen Intel Unraid itx server.
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Seems to be roughly the equivalent of an A620 motherboard. It is interesting the CPU cooler use an intel socket LGA 1700 configuration and not AM4 or AM5 but probably doesn't matter as most coolers have wide compatibility with different sockets.
Seems to be roughly the equivalent of an A620 motherboard. It is interesting the CPU cooler use an intel socket LGA 1700 configuration and not AM4 or AM5 but probably doesn't matter as most coolers have wide compatibility with different sockets.
The only downsides I can see
-MB has no Argb headers
-sodimm limited speeds and sockets
-limited usb headers on the mb
-stuck with weirdo fl1 socket
I would think this would make a great server lab PC. It might have somewhat limited use as a gaming PC, but it might be serviceable.
But I dunno, that chip is a beast, it's like a low power 7950x- it performs like 12% less but at 1/3 the power draw. Like I said above, those chips are binned quite high.
I do wonder about the power limits of the mb too….
Regarding the SODIMM speed. I don't understand your point. What I was saying that, you are not going to loose any performance because SODIMM Rams normally offer lesser speed than DIMM desktop Rams because the CPU is limited 5200 MT/s (5600 MT/s with BIOS Update) and they are the standard DDR5 SODIMM speed now a days. Even if you find a 6000 MT/s DDR5 SODIMM module, you won't get any advantage since the CPU does not support it.
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If you find out, please let me know! Always looking for a replacement of my 8th gen Intel Unraid itx server.