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Apple MacBook Pro: 14.2", M3 Pro, 18GB RAM, 512GB SSD $1499

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  • Apple M3 Pro 11-cores (5x Performance 4GHz + 6x Efficiency 2.7Ghz) Processor, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • 14.2" (3024x1964) Liquid Retina XDR, 254ppi, 1000-nits sustained (1600-nits peak) ProMotion 120Hz Mini-LED Display
  • 18GB Onboard Unified Memory
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD Storage
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Webcam
  • Studio-Quality Three-Mic Array with High Signal-to-Noise Ratio and Directional Beamforming
  • High-Fidelity Six-Speaker System with Force-Cancelling Woofers
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID sensor & Force Touch Trackpad
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x SD card reader
    • 1x Headphone jack (3.5mm)
    • 1x MagSafe 3 Power w/ 70W USB-C Power Adapter
  • 72.4 Whr Li-Po Battery
  • 12.31 x 8.71 x 0.61" (3.5 lbs)


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Available in both colors.

SPECS:
  • Apple M3 Pro 11-cores (5x Performance 4GHz + 6x Efficiency 2.7Ghz) Processor, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • 14.2" (3024x1964) Liquid Retina XDR, 254ppi, 1000-nits sustained (1600-nits peak) ProMotion 120Hz Mini-LED Display
  • 18GB Onboard Unified Memory
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD Storage
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Webcam
  • Studio-Quality Three-Mic Array with High Signal-to-Noise Ratio and Directional Beamforming
  • High-Fidelity Six-Speaker System with Force-Cancelling Woofers
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID sensor & Force Touch Trackpad
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x SD card reader
    • 1x Headphone jack (3.5mm)
    • 1x MagSafe 3 Power w/ 70W USB-C Power Adapter
  • 72.4 Whr Li-Po Battery
  • 12.31 x 8.71 x 0.61" (3.5 lbs)


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Model: Apple MacBook Pro 14-Inch Laptop Touch ID Apple M3 Pro Chip 18GB Unified RAM 512GB SSD in Silver (Late 2023)

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Dec 05, 2024 12:55 AM
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Juggernaut_510Dec 05, 2024 12:55 AM
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I have this exact machine right now. It's one awesome possum!
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Dec 05, 2024 12:56 AM
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Dec 05, 2024 12:56 AM
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Not a good deal here. The base MacBook Pro M4 is better than this MacBook Pro M3 Pro. I would not recommend at this price. Maybe $1399 but I still would not buy.

Sorry but the base M4 MacBook Pro smokes this M3 Pro at a cheaper price point.
Last edited by 1gokart December 4, 2024 at 05:00 PM.
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Quote from 1gokart :
Not a good deal here. The base MacBook Pro M4 is better than this MacBook Pro M3 Pro. I would not recommend at this price. Maybe $1399 but I still would not buy.

Sorry but the base M4 MacBook Pro smokes this M3 Pro at a cheaper price point.
Thats not necessarily the case, depends on what you use case is. The M4 is better then the M3 Pro in single core usage, but the M3 Pro is a little better in multi core usage and much much better GPU wise. The M4 has a better display but the M3 Pro has 2GB more RAM. If you were comparing M4 Pro to M3 Pro it would be a different story, however.
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Dec 05, 2024 01:31 AM
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Squirrels8MyLunchDec 05, 2024 01:31 AM
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Quote from 1gokart :
Not true.

Watch this video showing the comparison.

https://youtu.be/Nf0aIX8niV4?si=8hXxDbWlW51ZZtYp

There's a lot more difference that makes the base M4 a better choice over the M3Pro unless you are paying a significant price savings.

Better screen, better battery life, better webcam, longer OS support, better both single and multi CPU performance.
Well this is awkward. Guess we need a third opinion. Anyone willing to chime in here?
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank 1gokart

The only reason to buy the M3 Pro is the graphics but if you need the graphics then you are better spending the extra $300 and get the M4 Pro for $1799.

Don't get me wrong. The M3 Pro is a great computer but not at this price point.

It is not a slick deal at $1500
Last edited by 1gokart December 4, 2024 at 05:46 PM.
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misternappsDec 05, 2024 02:09 AM
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Article from Tom's, not source for below: https://www.tomsguide.com/feature...benchmarks


On paper, specs:
  • CPU Cores: M3 Pro and M4 Pro lead with 12 cores.
    • M3 Base: 8 (4P + 4E)
    • M3 Pro: 12 (6P + 6E)
    • M4 Base: 10 (4P + 6E)
    • M4 Pro: 12 (8P + 4E)
  • CPU Clock Speed: M4 Pro is the fastest with up to 4.52 GHz.
    • M3 Base: Up to 4.05 GHz
    • M3 Pro: Up to 4.05 GHz
    • M4 Base: Up to 4.41 GHz
    • M4 Pro: Up to 4.52 GHz
  • Single-Core Performance: M4 Pro achieves the best with Geekbench 6: ~3,864.
    • M3 Base: Geekbench 6: ~3,158
    • M3 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~3,158
    • M4 Base: Geekbench 6: ~3,849
    • M4 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~3,864
  • Multi-Core Performance: M4 Pro dominates with Geekbench 6: ~20,499.
    • M3 Base: Geekbench 6: ~11,500
    • M3 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~15,070
    • M4 Base: Geekbench 6: ~15,100
    • M4 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~20,499
  • GPU Cores: M3 Pro has the most with 19 cores.
    • M3 Base: 10
    • M3 Pro: 19
    • M4 Base: 10
    • M4 Pro: 16
  • GPU Performance: M3 Pro and M4 Pro both excel with ~7.4 TFLOPS.
    • M3 Base: ~4.6 TFLOPS
    • M3 Pro: ~7.4 TFLOPS
    • M4 Base: ~4.6 TFLOPS
    • M4 Pro: ~7.4 TFLOPS
  • Memory Support: M4 Pro leads with up to 64 GB LPDDR5X-8533.
    • M3 Base: Up to 24 GB LPDDR5
    • M3 Pro: Up to 36 GB LPDDR5-6400
    • M4 Base: Up to 32 GB LPDDR5X-7500
    • M4 Pro: Up to 64 GB LPDDR5X-8533
  • Memory Bandwidth: M4 Pro takes the top spot with 273 GB/s.
    • M3 Base: 100 GB/s
    • M3 Pro: 153.6 GB/s
    • M4 Base: 120 GB/s
    • M4 Pro: 273 GB/s
  • Neural Engine: M4 Base and M4 Pro double performance with 38 TOPS.
    • M3 Base: 16-core, 18 TOPS
    • M3 Pro: 16-core, 18 TOPS
    • M4 Base: 16-core, 38 TOPS
    • M4 Pro: 16-core, 38 TOPS
  • Transistor Count: M4 Pro has the highest count with 40 billion.
    • M3 Base: 25 billion
    • M3 Pro: 37 billion
    • M4 Base: 28 billion
    • M4 Pro: 40 billion
  • Fabrication Process: All chips are 3 nm.
    • M3 Base: 3 nm
    • M3 Pro: 3 nm
    • M4 Base: 3 nm
    • M4 Pro: 3 nm
  • Thermal Design Power: M3 Base is the most energy-efficient at ~20W.
    • M3 Base: ~20W
    • M3 Pro: ~30W
    • M4 Base: ~22W
    • M4 Pro: ~38W
Last edited by misternapps December 4, 2024 at 06:23 PM.
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Quote from 1gokart :
Not a good deal here. The base MacBook Pro M4 is better than this MacBook Pro M3 Pro. I would not recommend at this price. Maybe $1399 but I still would not buy.Sorry but the base M4 MacBook Pro smokes this M3 Pro at a cheaper price point.
The only advantage of M4 is CPU single-core performance. Multi-core same, M3 Pro has better GPU & Memory bandwidth. Remember 18GB vs 16GB of RAM and dual fan vs single-fan...
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Quote from misternapps :
Article from Tom's, not source for below: https://www.tomsguide.com/feature...benchmarks


On paper, specs:
  • CPU Cores: M3 Pro and M4 Pro lead with 12 cores.
    • M3 Base: 8 (4P + 4E)
    • M3 Pro: 12 (6P + 6E)
    • M4 Base: 10 (4P + 6E)
    • M4 Pro: 12 (8P + 4E)
  • CPU Clock Speed: M4 Pro is the fastest with up to 4.52 GHz.
    • M3 Base: Up to 4.05 GHz
    • M3 Pro: Up to 4.05 GHz
    • M4 Base: Up to 4.41 GHz
    • M4 Pro: Up to 4.52 GHz
  • Single-Core Performance: M4 Pro achieves the best with Geekbench 6: ~3,864.
    • M3 Base: Geekbench 6: ~3,158
    • M3 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~3,158
    • M4 Base: Geekbench 6: ~3,849
    • M4 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~3,864
  • Multi-Core Performance: M4 Pro dominates with Geekbench 6: ~20,499.
    • M3 Base: Geekbench 6: ~11,500
    • M3 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~15,070
    • M4 Base: Geekbench 6: ~15,100
    • M4 Pro: Geekbench 6: ~20,499
  • GPU Cores: M3 Pro has the most with 19 cores.
    • M3 Base: 10
    • M3 Pro: 19
    • M4 Base: 10
    • M4 Pro: 16
  • GPU Performance: M3 Pro and M4 Pro both excel with ~7.4 TFLOPS.
    • M3 Base: ~4.6 TFLOPS
    • M3 Pro: ~7.4 TFLOPS
    • M4 Base: ~4.6 TFLOPS
    • M4 Pro: ~7.4 TFLOPS
  • Memory Support: M4 Pro leads with up to 64 GB LPDDR5X-8533.
    • M3 Base: Up to 24 GB LPDDR5
    • M3 Pro: Up to 36 GB LPDDR5-6400
    • M4 Base: Up to 32 GB LPDDR5X-7500
    • M4 Pro: Up to 64 GB LPDDR5X-8533
  • Memory Bandwidth: M4 Pro takes the top spot with 273 GB/s.
    • M3 Base: 100 GB/s
    • M3 Pro: 153.6 GB/s
    • M4 Base: 120 GB/s
    • M4 Pro: 273 GB/s
  • Neural Engine: M4 Base and M4 Pro double performance with 38 TOPS.
    • M3 Base: 16-core, 18 TOPS
    • M3 Pro: 16-core, 18 TOPS
    • M4 Base: 16-core, 38 TOPS
    • M4 Pro: 16-core, 38 TOPS
  • Transistor Count: M4 Pro has the highest count with 40 billion.
    • M3 Base: 25 billion
    • M3 Pro: 37 billion
    • M4 Base: 28 billion
    • M4 Pro: 40 billion
  • Fabrication Process: All chips are 3 nm.
    • M3 Base: 3 nm
    • M3 Pro: 3 nm
    • M4 Base: 3 nm
    • M4 Pro: 3 nm
  • Thermal Design Power: M3 Base is the most energy-efficient at ~20W.
    • M3 Base: ~20W
    • M3 Pro: ~30W
    • M4 Base: ~22W
    • M4 Pro: ~38W
That's pretty definitive. M4 is pretty impressive. Either one is outside my price point. Gotta wait
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Quote from 1gokart :
Not a good deal here. The base MacBook Pro M4 is better than this MacBook Pro M3 Pro. I would not recommend at this price. Maybe $1399 but I still would not buy.Sorry but the base M4 MacBook Pro smokes this M3 Pro at a cheaper price point.
OK, i would argue, MacMini M4 is better than Macbook Pro M4 Pro.
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Quote from dududu :
OK, i would argue, MacMini M4 is better than Macbook Pro M4 Pro.
Sure, but those two are different form factors, desktop vs laptop.

This is a true Apple to Apple comparison 😀 and this is Slickdeals

At $1500, this one year old laptop isn't a good price. Other than graphics performance, most users are better buying the new MacBook Pro with the M4 chip.

If the deal is $1300, then thumbs up, but not $1500. That is not a deal especially with the M4 costing less.
Last edited by 1gokart December 5, 2024 at 05:26 AM.
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Quote from 1gokart :
The only reason to buy the M3 Pro is the graphics but if you need the graphics then you are better spending the extra $300 and get the M4 Pro for $1799.

Don't get me wrong. The M3 Pro is a great computer but not at this price point.

It is not a slick deal at $1500
Ok but if you care about the graphics use, wouldn't you also be the type of user who would prefer a 16" varient anyway, making even the $1800 not a general good fit?
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Quote from Squirrels8MyLunch :
Ok but if you care about the graphics use, wouldn't you also be the type of user who would prefer a 16" varient anyway, making even the $1800 not a general good fit?
This forum is called " Slickdeals".

@$1500 for a one year old MacBook Pro 14" M3 Pro is not slick nor a deal when you can get the new MacBook Pro 14" M4 for $1400.

If this laptop is priced @$1300 then we're 👍🏻
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Quote from 1gokart :
This forum is called " Slickdeals".

@$1500 for a one year old MacBook Pro 14" M3 Pro is not slick nor a deal when you can get the new MacBook Pro 14" M4 for $1400.

If this laptop is priced @$1300 then we're 👍🏻
M3 Pro is significantly faster than M4 base for GPU heavy workloads and is quieter with two fans

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Quote from Squirrels8MyLunch :
Ok but if you care about the graphics use, wouldn't you also be the type of user who would prefer a 16" varient anyway, making even the $1800 not a general good fit?
I care a lot about th GPU performance on my 14". Bigger isn't better for everyone, but that's a separate question from performance.

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