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Amazon has for Prime Members w/ Amazon Prime Visa Card: 2-Pack TP-Link Tapo Matter Smart Dimmer Switch on sale for $22.99 + 20% Back on Monthly Billing Statement. Shipping is free.
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Model: TP-Link Tapo Matter Smart Dimmer Switch: Voice Control w/Siri, Alexa & Google Assistant, UL Certified, Timer & Schedule, Easy Guided Install, Neutral Wire Required, Single Pole, Tapo S505D(2-Pack)
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I have installed this recently, have had a positive experience using this with Apple HomeKit. Make sure to add the device on Tapo app first, upgrade the firmware, then add it to HomeKit.
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The dimmer version requires that both switches in the set be installed on the same 3 way circuit, there's a line side switch and a load side switch, and each is wired differently.
I read somewhere that you can use one dimmer in a 3-way circuit as you might not need dimming capability at both ends, but would see what the installation instructions say for this particular model.
I read somewhere that you can use one dimmer in a 3-way circuit as you might not need dimming capability at both ends, but would see what the installation instructions say for this particular model.
I could see that potentially working, but I don't think the unused 3 way load side switch in that scenario could be used to add 3 way smart dimming to another 3 way circuit, since IIRC the load side switch doesn't have a neutral connection, and likely doesn't have a WiFi radio in it so that it could be connected to WiFi and paired to the app.
One of the undocumented features of the 3 way on/offs is that they can also be used in a 4 way switching situation with the remaining 3 way switch and 4 way switches left in place - I have one set up in our kitchen that way, one Kasa smart 3 way on the line side, the existing 3 way "dumb" switch left in place, and the intermediate 4 way dumb switches left in place.
I read somewhere that you can use one dimmer in a 3-way circuit as you might not need dimming capability at both ends, but would see what the installation instructions say for this particular model.
I installed the 3 way dimmer over the weekend. It would not work without both of the switches that came in the box installed.
Will this work in a 3-way light switch situation? I need to buy switches for an entire house remodel and have a neutral wire. I only have experience with Lutron Caseta, which are ironclad, but are not in the budget for this rental house. Thinking regular switches to avoid landlord calls, or an affordable, reliable smart switch to be a cool landlord.
I AM super curious why ppl care if it works with a 3 way switch??? I ask because the convenience of a 3 way switch is to control the light from either switch BUT IF you Install a smart switch that is controlled on the phone, then whats the point?
I AM super curious why ppl care if it works with a 3 way switch??? I ask because the convenience of a 3 way switch is to control the light from either switch BUT IF you Install a smart switch that is controlled on the phone, then whats the point?
Not sure if you have smart devices, but rarely do you only want to control them via schedules/phones/voice assistants/smart hubs. Slapping the switch as you walk by will always be more convenient than grabbing a phone or waking your voice assistant.
I AM super curious why ppl care if it works with a 3 way switch??? I ask because the convenience of a 3 way switch is to control the light from either switch BUT IF you Install a smart switch that is controlled on the phone, then whats the point?
So that anyone who doesn't have your phone can operate the switches as normal.
Thanks for this. Does the 3-way dimmer also have the 20% rebate? I'm debating going all TP-Link Kasa dimmers in my rental I'm remodeling, but I'm scared there could be issues for the tenant if they only want to operate them as dumb switches. I'm only familiar with Lutron Caseta, which works just fine for this with its hub, but I know these need WiFi. I'm just not sure if they need it to work as dumb switches as well.
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Thanks for this. Does the 3-way dimmer also have the 20% rebate? I'm debating going all TP-Link Kasa dimmers in my rental I'm remodeling, but I'm scared there could be issues for the tenant if they only want to operate them as dumb switches. I'm only familiar with Lutron Caseta, which works just fine for this with its hub, but I know these need WiFi. I'm just not sure if they need it to work as dumb switches as well.
Properly wired smart switches from any manufacturer will always operate as dumb switches, whether or not they are connected to a hub or WiFi or whatever connectivity they use. So there would be no issues operating them manually all the time.
And you'll have to do a hard reset on all the switches between tenants, and help each tenant set up a TP-Link account, install the app, and create automations. Personally if I was a landlord, I wouldn't want to support tenant issues with smart switches.
I could see some value for you if the rental is unoccupied for some time between tenants, and you wanted to automate things like turning porch lights on at dusk/off at dawn, and set the inside switches to "away" mode to make the property appear to be occupied by randomizing lights going on/off overnight, but you'd have to disable the automations when new tenants move in. A tech savvy tenant would probably love them, but I wouldn't want to get a call that one or more switches is offline and "can you come over to troubleshoot"? (The switches will operate manually even if offline)
Neither this or @artcab's link support Matter which is the big drawback to me.
Good point - probably good to spec Matter switches if just getting in to it, I have a house full of (Non-Matter) Kasas but am going with Matter Tapos going forward.
Looks like TP-Link is just starting to offer a Tapo branded Matter compliant 3 way dimmer kit, but it's pricy at $55 (although currently available with a 20% Prime Visa cashback):
I read somewhere that you can use one dimmer in a 3-way circuit as you might not need dimming capability at both ends, but would see what the installation instructions say for this particular model.
You can also use a single 3 way dimmer in a 4 way switch setup. I forget how I did it, but it drained my brain power that day setting it up.
Thread is a non-WiFi mesh network (like zigbee). So devices on the network talk to each other to relay messages. This makes the network more resilient and less prone to not working. In theory.
Thread is especially nice for battery operated devices as they use less power than WiFi devices.
Thread is built into many devices now, Apple TVs and HomePods for one, so they can act as an edge router (bridging WiFi to thread).
If you have a good WiFi network, non-thread matter is still nice to have.
Not sure if you have smart devices, but rarely do you only want to control them via schedules/phones/voice assistants/smart hubs. Slapping the switch as you walk by will always be more convenient than grabbing a phone or waking your voice assistant.
I guess it somewhat makes sense, i do have 98 smart devices at home and i hardly use the switch, i guess I'm lazy that way, i just ask Alexa or tap my phone.... but see how it would be convenient for those without a phone connected or dont want to talk to Alexa 😁
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Is it better to get Tapo since Kasa is going to be out?
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One of the undocumented features of the 3 way on/offs is that they can also be used in a 4 way switching situation with the remaining 3 way switch and 4 way switches left in place - I have one set up in our kitchen that way, one Kasa smart 3 way on the line side, the existing 3 way "dumb" switch left in place, and the intermediate 4 way dumb switches left in place.
I have two 4-way switches and I like to make them smart. Can you please explain how I can use the 3-way instead?
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Is it better to get Tapo since Kasa is going to be out?
I have two 4-way switches and I like to make them smart. Can you please explain how I can use the 3-way instead?
I'd go with Tapo Matter compliant switches if just starting out, but keep in mind that they do not yet offer Tapo branded Matter compliant 3 way on/off switches, they only offer Tapo branded 3 way dimmer switches, and those are relatively pricy compared to the Kasa branded 3 way dimmers.
I am successfully using a Kasa 3 way on/off smart switch in a 4 way setup. A 4 way switching setup is where the same lights are controlled from 3 or more switch locations, using a 3 way switch at the first "line in" location (where power comes in), one or more 4 way switches at intermediate locations, and lastly a 3 way switch at the last "load out" location (where switched power goes up to the lights). In my case, I was able to replace the first "line in" 3 way on/off switch with a Kasa 3 way on/off smart switch, and leave the existing "dumb" 4 way switches at the intermediate locations (3 locations in my case) as well as the "dumb" 3 way switch at the "load out" location.
I am not aware of any way to add smart dimming to a 4 way setup using Kasa products. Bolding for emphasis, not shouting HTH
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One of the undocumented features of the 3 way on/offs is that they can also be used in a 4 way switching situation with the remaining 3 way switch and 4 way switches left in place - I have one set up in our kitchen that way, one Kasa smart 3 way on the line side, the existing 3 way "dumb" switch left in place, and the intermediate 4 way dumb switches left in place.
https://www.amazon.com/Kasa-Smart...B0BC2MW
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And you'll have to do a hard reset on all the switches between tenants, and help each tenant set up a TP-Link account, install the app, and create automations. Personally if I was a landlord, I wouldn't want to support tenant issues with smart switches.
I could see some value for you if the rental is unoccupied for some time between tenants, and you wanted to automate things like turning porch lights on at dusk/off at dawn, and set the inside switches to "away" mode to make the property appear to be occupied by randomizing lights going on/off overnight, but you'd have to disable the automations when new tenants move in. A tech savvy tenant would probably love them, but I wouldn't want to get a call that one or more switches is offline and "can you come over to troubleshoot"? (The switches will operate manually even if offline)
Looks like TP-Link is just starting to offer a Tapo branded Matter compliant 3 way dimmer kit, but it's pricy at $55 (although currently available with a 20% Prime Visa cashback):
https://www.amazon.com/Tapo-KIT-C...123&sr=8-6
Hopefully these will drop in price.
Thread is especially nice for battery operated devices as they use less power than WiFi devices.
Thread is built into many devices now, Apple TVs and HomePods for one, so they can act as an edge router (bridging WiFi to thread).
If you have a good WiFi network, non-thread matter is still nice to have.
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I have two 4-way switches and I like to make them smart. Can you please explain how I can use the 3-way instead?
I am successfully using a Kasa 3 way on/off smart switch in a 4 way setup. A 4 way switching setup is where the same lights are controlled from 3 or more switch locations, using a 3 way switch at the first "line in" location (where power comes in), one or more 4 way switches at intermediate locations, and lastly a 3 way switch at the last "load out" location (where switched power goes up to the lights). In my case, I was able to replace the first "line in" 3 way on/off switch with a Kasa 3 way on/off smart switch, and leave the existing "dumb" 4 way switches at the intermediate locations (3 locations in my case) as well as the "dumb" 3 way switch at the "load out" location.
I am not aware of any way to add smart dimming to a 4 way setup using Kasa products. Bolding for emphasis, not shouting